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March 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Topics approved by a majority of voters.

Ban operating systems (+2)[edit]

Topic added on March 25th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on April 8th, 2014.

So as we know, Shops has a space issue. I think a big factor is all these operating systems that are suddenly popular for whatever reason, like Doors. These have no real purpose at all either. So, I say, we ban any more of these from being created, and delete the ones that have already been made.

For (6)[edit]

  1. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 22:11, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  2. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 22:29, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 23:14, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  4. CK 01:37, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  5. --Singaporean flag.jpegSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 05:15, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  6. -- Brook O' Las 15:11, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Against (4)[edit]

  1. --Member5.pngAgent Isai Member by your side Member5.png 01:08, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 08:30, 26 March 2014 (UTC) (see my comments for details)
  3. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 12:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 18:34, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • wat Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 22:27, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Agreed. It's like the new custom Club Penguins. Why use a fake operating system when you can use Windows or OSX? --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 22:29, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  • I'd agree with this if I didn't quit shops Mario Rk was here! 22:33, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  • :(Member5.pngAgent Isai Member by your side Member5.png 01:16, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Sea has said that text pages don't really take up much space. However, I do believe that they are as much of a nuisance as those CP ripoffs. I think I may reinvent the deletion process for pages after Clean Up Shops is over, to get rid of nuisance pages easier. CK 01:37, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes, I agree that this should be stopped. However, deleting those pages will make the matter worse. We should give a warning to those who make them in the future, then punishments and bans if they persist. Yeah, I am talking about making this an official policy. --Singaporean flag.jpegSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 05:17, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  • I agree we should ban users from creating any more such pages, but I think they should be allowed to keep the operating system pages they made in the past. This could hopefully solve the space issue, and at the same time prevent users from getting unhappy, especially those who devoted a lot of their time and effort in making these pages (such as Agent Isai).--Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 08:30, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
    • I agree --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 12:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
      • Like I said, these are taking up space, AND they're pretty useless. What can you do with them? Pretend to go on the internet (especially when you're already ON THE INTERNET)? Plus, I don't even know if anybody uses these. They just get made and clog up the RC. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 15:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
        • I do agree some operating systems seem useless, and that's why I agree banning users from creating such pages any more. However, if users made such pages in the past, then it is our fault we didn't tell them NOT to create those pages in first place. Club Penguin Shops is a place where all users can come to have fun, roleplay, sell items, and create anything they can think of! I assume "anything they can think of" includes operating systems, right? --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 03:26, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
  • CHILL! WHAT ABOUT THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH YOU CAN'T BAN A OS! Or else you become a mean king. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 19:28, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
    • This has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Simply outlawing something useless that takes up too much space on the wiki. We take up a lot of space as it is, we don't need these operating systems. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 00:42, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
    • Do you even know what freedom of speech means? --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 12:01, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
  • REMEMBER, these operating systems also use UNNECESSARY IMAGES as well, which are also a big problem that can be dealt with. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 00:45, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
  • This is the Club Penguin Shops, not Club Penguin Operating Systems. They waste valuable space. They are useless. Real operating systems, like Windows and OSX, are far more functional. Windows 8 may not be that functional, but it's more functional than Doors. What does Windows have? A real word processor, image editing, and customization. What does OSX have? Though more expensive, Macs also have a real word processor, image editing, and customization. Doors? Non-existent word processor, no image editing, and barely any customization. These can just be widgets for cloud apps, but no. Why not make multiple pages? I'm sorry, but these are seriously a complete and utter waste of time, period. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 03:39, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
  • You do know the OS's will be sent to fanon right? So just keep them. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 19:31, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
    • "They'll get sent to another wiki where they'll be just as useless so keep them here" Hmm okay I guess we better keep it then stop the vote</sarcasm> --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 14:23, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Dave, Fanon is part of the CPWN. Therefore, you're just keeping the junk pages in our servers. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 14:26, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Some users dislike the idea of deleting current Operating systems. So, if this vote passes a restriction will be put on creating new systems, but deleting old systems will be decided upon by the administration. CK 01:43, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Denied[edit]

Topics denied by a majority of voters.

Moving the pictures to a wikia wiki (-3)[edit]

Topic added on March 25th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on April 8th, 2014.

Since we have a space problem in the network, I have the idea to move old pages and pics to a wiki in wikia so we can remove them here and save them in the wikia wiki.

For (1)[edit]

  1. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 21:18, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Against (3)[edit]

  1. CK 22:03, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  2. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 22:07, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Member5.pngAgent Isai Member by your side Member5.png 01:06, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Singaporean flag.jpegSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 05:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

April 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

There were no topics approved by a majority of voters in April 2014.

Denied[edit]

Topics denied by a majority of voters.

Log in and log off logs (-6)[edit]

Topic added on April 30th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on May 14th, 2014.

I made this because it can show who just came in and left. It helps people know there's someone online. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 20:59, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

For (0)[edit]

Against (6)[edit]

  1. Some users are always shown as logged in. They don't want the trouble of logging in and out every time. This ability renders your proposal useless, even though it is a bit useful. --Singapore flag.gifSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 01:29, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
  2. This idea is absolutely useless. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 12:02, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  3. Even if this existed, you might not know when i am on for example, cause all the network tabs are closed for me. I am on IRC all the time when i can be on; there is no need to invite me to IRC either. I think i am also pretty much ALWAYS logged in even when my tabs are closed. Plus, i don't think this is even possible. This would require a lot of tech work and there is no wiki which has this feature either i think. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 12:13, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  4. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 21:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  5. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 15:01, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
  6. Mario Rk was here! 14:38, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • I don't really see any need for this. I think I understand what you're saying, have a sort of thing that says how many people are logged in, but as Slender said some people are logged in all of the time (like me), even if we're not on shops all the time. CK 19:39, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
    • What CK said. I'm constantly logged into the CPWN, even when I'm not using it. I doubt many users here actually log off every time they leave the site. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 19:56, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Is it even technically possible? --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 07:46, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  • No thanks, you stalk me enough as it is now --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:59, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Even if this existed, you might not know when i am on for example, cause all the network tabs are closed for me. I am on IRC all the time when i can be on; there is no need to invite me to IRC either. I think i am also pretty much ALWAYS logged in even when my tabs are closed. Plus, i don't think this is even possible. This would require a lot of tech work and there is no wiki which has this feature either i think. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 12:02, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm logged on all the time. At the moment, however, I am extremely inactive. This would be a useless feature. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 21:42, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Bro fist to all those who are logged on all the time. At least I am not the only one who didn't log out. --Singapore flag.gifSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 05:55, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

May 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Topics approved by a majority of voters.

Some new version of CPS:Arcade (+2)[edit]

Topic added on May 2, 2014.
Topic will be removed on May 16, 2014.

I think we should have a feature where we can play minigames on Shops to earn a small amount of WB$ (It should be in .swf; but I don't think we have a swf maker) This feature may be cooler, since the former Arcade turned into an abandoned building, and it is a good way to earn small WB$ every day. Plus, many malls are inactive and haven't been touched since like, Summer 2013 SpaceCPIslandSillybudzEarthDay.png Meow... Earth Day.... WOOF!DogPuffleSillybudzShadowed.png 00:07, 3 May 2014 (UTC).

For (2)[edit]

  1. SpaceCPIslandSillybudzEarthDay.png Meow... Earth Day.... WOOF!DogPuffleSillybudzShadowed.png 00:07, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 20:31, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Against (0)[edit]

Comments[edit]

Chat administrator (+5)[edit]

Topic added on May 4, 2014.
Topic will be removed on May 18, 2014.

Like the chat admins of Wikia, I think that we should have several non-admin Operators guarding our IRC Channels to prevent spammers and unwelcome users. Just a minor suggestion. --Singapore flag.gifSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 08:01, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

For (5)[edit]

  1. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 19:40, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
  2. Yes. I even have some ideas for people who are possibly good enough to become some (if you thought of it, no, it doesn't involve me.) --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 19:42, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Singapore flag.gifSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 02:48, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 19:52, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
  5. Mario Rk was here! 14:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Against (0)[edit]

Comments[edit]

Denied[edit]

Topics denied by a majority of voters.

Remove the "Account balance" text in bank accounts (-1)[edit]

Topic added on May 26th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on June 5th, 2014.

This is a pretty minor request, but it is highly unneeded and annoying to update. I think we should just get rid of it :P

For (2)[edit]

  1. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 13:32, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 18:07, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Against (3)[edit]

  1. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 16:52, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  2. Mario Rk was here! 16:55, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 18:01, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Ditto. I NEVER update the account balance. It's just easier to scroll down. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 13:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Getting rid of it would be fine if we updated the bank "records"/archives every month. But, some people have bank records all clumped on one page so it takes forever to scroll (If I remember correctly, Bro's bank account has literally everything since 2012 on one page). This is a really minor topic though, more of a discussionary point rather than a vote. CK 03:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I personally like having the account balance, as it makes it easier to tell how much users have without having to scroll to the bottom of their transaction history. As CK said, some users, like Bro, have large bank account histories that have never been archived, which makes this a huge pain. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 16:52, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm removing my vote. This topic is pretty much opinionated. Some (like me) likes scrolling to the bottom of the page. Others (like Bro) might think that the account balance is useful. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 12:45, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, I (or slender) add salaries to every bank account once a month, but I don't really find the account balance "annoying to update" :P --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 16:13, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Replace the official blog (-1)[edit]

Topic added on May 28th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on June 6th, 2014.

Hi, it's Slender here. I was thinking that we could replace the official Blog with a newspaper like page similar to the Berg on Club Penguin Wiki. We can add news about upcoming parties (user-hosted or official), jokes and other misc. articles on it.

For (3)[edit]

  1. --Singapore flag.gifSlenderman Majulah Singapura! 09:11, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 17:53, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Agent Isai 20:41, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Against (4)[edit]

  1. Mario Rk was here! 16:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  2. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 18:17, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  3. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 00:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 03:15, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • It is a good idea in theory. However, judging from current user activity, it seems unlikely for us to have a user who would have the motivation to create such a detailed newspaper on a monthly basis. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 15:42, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Wut Dps said. Brook and I along with some other users were planning a concept similar to this about two years ago, but it never turned out due to lack of dedication. I think we should just stick with the blog, at least for now, as it's way easier to make and less time-consuming. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall Blog 16:54, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • We tried to do this in the past, it failed. It'd be easier just to post blog posts every once in a while. Mario Rk was here! 16:57, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • The "Updates" are usually written towards the end of the month to recap stuff, since at the beginning of each month we usually have no plans for what's gonna happen :P So, I feel that newspapers would either be lacking when made or they'd be a disappointment by planning stuff that doesn't happen. CK 17:06, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I agree with this, a reboot would be good. Plus, can i edit? Review stuff. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 17:55, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Well SOME people (me) have great templates, patience and time to edit and make the newspaper. Agent Isai 20:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
  • No. Just no. We did something like this in the August of 2012. Needless to say, it flopped. I don't think there ever was a first issue. In order for something like this to be successful, we need people who are committed. Almost no one is committed. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 00:02, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

June 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Nominate Yourself in Votes (+5)[edit]

Topic added on 20 June, 2014.
Topic will be removed on 4 July, 2014.

Hey! This is Yoshi here with a very minor proposal. I would want users to nominate themselves in Mall of the Month, the Rfas, etc. Why? If a user feels that their mall should be featured, the user should be able to nominate its mall. If a user feels that it is ready to become an administrator, they can nominate themselves. On the plus side, there might be an increase in participation for MotM and related votes. On the minus side, this may be abused. What do you guys think?

For (5)[edit]

  1. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 01:28, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
  2. melike --CP5thYearPartyHat.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall 01:33, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Agent Isai 01:49, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
  4. --~Aquamarina14~ (talk) 04:58, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
  5. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 16:11, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Against (0)[edit]

Comments[edit]

  • I so agree with you, whats bad about being proud? ~Aquamarina14~ (talk) 04:58, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Denied[edit]

August 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Add a signature policy of some sort (+6)[edit]

Topic added on August 22, 2014.
Topic will be removed on September 5, 2014.

I think we should add some sort of signature policy to prevent extremely long signatures, like Template:QSign. I'm thinking maybe a limit on how many images can be in the signature and a limit of 1000 bytes. My signature takes up only about 500 bytes, CK's, Brook's, Mario's, and Aqua's take up even less than that. You can still have a decent signature easily with these limits.

Also, please discuss in the comments how much the limit of images should be. I'm thinking perhaps 2, but I'm sure more than that would be fine.

--ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:43, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

For (7)[edit]

  1. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:43, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. -- Brookelas Autism Awareness AutismAwarenessPuzzle.png 18:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 23:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 16:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
  5. --Sorry..Aquamarina | Talk page | Aurora Mall 18:13, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  6. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 16:25, 27 August 2014 (UTC) (see Comments below)
  7. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 21:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Against (1)[edit]

  1. --Not Scorn.PNGMy name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall!And don't forget to review it!   EstoniaFlagStock.pngEstoniaFlagAdmin.pngCS-Estonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.pngEstoniaFlag.gifEstoniaFlag.pngEstonia flag.pngEstonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.svgFlagOfTheEstonia.pngNot Scorn.PNG 18:09, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • My sign is now 745 bytes. But i will NOT remove the flags. 10 pictures and at least 750 bytes should be the limit, if not more. But NOT less. --My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall! EstoniaFlagStock.pngEstoniaFlagAdmin.pngCS-Estonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.pngEstoniaFlag.gifEstoniaFlag.pngEstonia flag.pngEstonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.svgFlagOfTheEstonia.png 18:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't think images are an issue at all, as long as its a reasonable length. As for signature size, I think 1000 bytes is plenty. -- Brookelas Autism Awareness AutismAwarenessPuzzle.png 18:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I personally think the limit should be around 600-700 bytes - that's about as long as a decent signature has to be when it uses complex coding. There should be no excuse to exceed that. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 23:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't think that we should regulate users' signatures at all. However, long signatures take more space. I am neutral about the implementation of this policy. --Flag of Malaysia.svgFlag of the United States.svgSlender Talk to me 07:49, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
    • You can easily have a perfectly decent signature with the limits I've proposed. I gave multiple examples of users who have decent signatures far under these limits. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 14:58, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I think mine is pretty good. I think the limit should be about 750 instead of a 1000. Whenever Quacker comments it looks like he's adding tons of info. Also we should have a limit of like 30-40px for an image, and the fact that <br> shouldn't be used. 2 images seems good too. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 16:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I totally agree. Plus, the limit of bytes should be around 750-ish just to reduce size, and I agree on the amount of pictures so people *cough*Quackerpingu*cough* don't waste random pictures :| Aquamarina | Talk page | Aurora Mall 18:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Quacker, we're not trying to remove your signature, and this isn't against the policy, we're merely trying to keep signature sizes reasonable. Honestly you don't need all those flags at all, you could just remove them and I'm pretty sure your sig would work with the new policy. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 19:46, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I think a limit of four images would be reasonable. That way if users who like putting image links for their pages, they can do userpage, talkpage, contributions, and mall without problems. What do you guys think? *waits for Quacker to oppose my suggestion* --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 20:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I agree. *waits for Quack to disapprove this comment* Aquamarina | Talk page | Aurora Mall 20:39, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  • With an expection for me. Or i will build 10,000 Protobots. --My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. EstoniaFlagStock.pngEstoniaFlagAdmin.pngCS-Estonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.pngEstoniaFlag.gifEstoniaFlag.pngEstonia flag.pngEstonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.svgFlagOfTheEstonia.png 20:40, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  • WOwwowowowowoowowowowoow! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquamarina14 (talkcontribs)
  • In theory I support the addition of a signature policy. However, as Brook mentioned, I believe we should be limiting the length of the signature rather than the number of images allowed per signature. This is because a user can easily circumvent the restrictions on the number of images allowed by joining all the images in their signature into one large image with an extremely long length. Take Quack as an example, he can circumvent the 2-images only rule by joining all the Estonian flags into a single image with an extremely long length. Therefore, it is the size/length of the signature that has to be regulated. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 16:25, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  • *facepalm* This spam is simply horrifying and childish. I do not like it, and I'm pretty sure that that everyone is <censored>. Anyway, about the signature. A signature is what it is. It's something that allows other users to access one user's most important stuff. It doesn't need to be too fancy. I fully support the addition of this policy. Large signatures clog up the network's space. I know that some people want to show off their coding skills, but no one cares. I think a signature size, image count, and image size policy should be implemented. This will allow the user's signatures to be simplistic and functional. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Good Old YEC! 21:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Shops Awards? (+5)[edit]

Topic added on August 26, 2014.
Topic will be removed on September 9, 2014.

I saw on the CPW that they're planning the Awards again, so I was wondering should we hold a Shops Awards this year?

--ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:04, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

For (5)[edit]

  1. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 17:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Aquamarina | Talk page | Aurora Mall 18:12, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
  3. --My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. EstoniaFlagStock.pngEstoniaFlagAdmin.pngCS-Estonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.pngEstoniaFlag.gifEstoniaFlag.pngEstonia flag.pngEstonia flag.PNGFlag of Estonia.svgFlagOfTheEstonia.png 18:41, 26 August 2014 (UTC)Bulleted list item
  4. --Mandog (talk) 00:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  5. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 12:49, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  6. -- Brookelas Autism Awareness AutismAwarenessPuzzle.png 13:33, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Against (0)[edit]

Comments[edit]

Striking Out (+4)[edit]

Topic added on August 27th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on September 10th, 2014.

So, we use the <s></s> to strike out votes, but let's be honest, it ruins the page design and looks ugly, why? Because it also strikes out the "#" meaning it cancels the number and causes the signature to fall lower. Here's an example:
Topic (+1)
For

  1. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 13:02, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Against
# --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 13:03, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

See? It doesn't look nice. We don't need to do this for changing your vote, no wikis do this, we're the only wiki that practices this and it's bugged my OCD from the start. Can we just...not...please?

For (4)[edit]

  1. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 13:02, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. Quackerpingu (talkcontribs) 14:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  3. -- Brookelas Autism Awareness AutismAwarenessPuzzle.png 13:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  4. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 18:09, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Against (1)[edit]

  1. Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 11:17, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • The "no wikis do this" part is incorrect. As far as I am concerned, many major wikis like Wikipedia encourages users to cross out their votes instead of completely removing it in case they change their minds, as this can indicate clearly they have changed their minds without the need of other users viewing the history of the page. Though it is important to note that the practice of striking out votes instead of removing them is only a recommendation by those wikis, and a user can still completely remove his vote if he or she prefers doing so. Therefore, I believe it should be up to the user to decide whether he/she wants to strike out votes or remove them completely, and I personally don't think we need to regulate that.--Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 16:15, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  • It doesn't strike out the # unless you put <s></s> in front of it. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Denied[edit]

Moving Council to Proposals Page (0)[edit]

Topic added on August 2. 2014.
Topic will be removed on August 16, 2014.

Since the Council system was abandoned and a new voting system was introduced, I think the Council page must be archived and a new page called Proposals Page must be created for voting. And, I kinda feel that it is messed up, so I made minor changes to the page in my test wiki, here. Though, I didn't make the full page, I just made some cleanup where I do believe it is messed up. --FlagBahrain.svgWolfgangs (Talk) 21:03, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

For (2)[edit]

  1. --FlagBahrain.svgWolfgangs (Talk) 21:03, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 05:25, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Against (2)[edit]

  1. --Isai 02:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 14:16, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Me to be neutral. And, sorry, I forgot to say my name. --My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. My userpage. Quack to me!   EstonianFlag.png 13:34, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't even understand what you're talking about... Shops hasn't changed its voting system? --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 14:16, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Until you explain it more, I'm not voting Mario Rk was here! 21:00, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Subway Concept (-3)[edit]

Topic added on August 28th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on September 11th, 2014.

I wanted to see your opinion(s) on this. I thought that if we re-vamp the subway so it takes over the 'places to visit' section on the homepage, and then make a subway with a 'line' for each part of shops (MI,Chill Island ect) and then add cities/towns/malls on those lines via the users request. This will be a much easier way to navigate the ENTIRE wiki for newcomers. Plus,if one wishes to have their city/town/village/mall on the line, he can contact an Admin.
I think that many people can benefit from this. Feel free to tell me your opinion of this below.
--Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 10:25, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

For (2)[edit]

  1. --Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 10:25, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Not Scorn.PNGMy name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall! Not Scorn.PNG 10:29, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Against (5)[edit]

  1. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 10:58, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 11:12, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  3. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 13:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Flag of Malaysia.svgFlag of the United States.svgSlender Talk to me 12:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  5. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 21:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • The fact that some users are waiting for a long time to have their malls put on the list of malls should be blamed on the inactive administration, not on the new list. --Flag of Malaysia.svgFlag of the United States.svgSlender Talk to me 11:32, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
    • However, with some active users on the scene, I can guarantee that the subway concept could be successful... whether you like it or not. Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 11:44, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
      • With some "Active Users"... no one other wants, i think. Seems like i am the only "active user". --Not Scorn.PNGMy name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall! EstonianPuffle.png 11:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
        • No, you're not. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 11:51, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
          • I am. At least more active than you. ಠ_ಠ --Not Scorn.PNGMy name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall! EstonianPuffle.png 11:54, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
            • But are you trusted by administration? No. You've been here for like 2 months. Also learn to accept other people's opinion. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 11:55, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
              • Q Mall was made 14:01, 29 May 2014‎. So, more than 2 months. ಠ_ಠ again. --Not Scorn.PNGMy name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall! EstonianPuffle.png 11:58, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
                • Mark, I can be trusted. Quack is willing to help ME, so Iaccept that. He may have given you a bad first impression, but you have to learn, like me, not to keep a grudge. Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 12:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
                  • Sorry but I just can't stand it when he removes and objects everything about him that he doesn't like. People have talked bad stuff about me, that's been way worse than what I have said here, yet I haven't cared, but he removes literally everything I (or someone else) does that he doesn't like. He removed his signature from Chill's topic, and kept replacing it with Chill's (which is completely unneeded, once a topic has been made, you shouldn't change it, no matter what) and then he kept adding his stupid Protobot crap in the comments. No. One. Cares. Here's the real deal though: He has a quantity of edits, but are they quality edits? Nope. Look at his mall reviews, they're terrible. His mall is in the red - and look at his items and mall as a whole, it's also terrible. He's honestly reminding me of Catali. But at least Catali didn't change other people's opinions, he just said "No!". He's also (like Catali) been copying some of my stuff (*cough*Template:EQFMessage*cough*) and claiming it as his own. Like literally, EQFMessage is the same as EPFMessage with some colours changed. This is exactly what Catali did. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 12:08, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
                  • Yes, I do understand he gets on your nerves, I just don't want this to end in horror. If you believe that, then that is your opinion. So, let's not do anything bad please? Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 12:14, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
    • However, it proves difficult as Mandog has been waiting to be put on the list for 20 days or so. Furthermore, we only have a small collection of stores, and adding them all means that it would be much easier to navigate between places.--Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 11:07, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
    • Mahna Mahna and Peixeespada2 are waiting too. And YEC and MBR Mall should be removed, as they are closed. And Sunset Centre should be replaced with Stockmall. And Wizzint should be replaced with Gdanham, or removed, because it is for malls, not cities. --Not Scorn.PNGMy name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall! Not Scorn.PNG 11:16, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I hope you realize the subway already existed before and that it was removed for being hard to add new stores and such. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 10:58, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
    • I do realize that it was unsuccessful, however, it was only ever deleted due to lags and the fact that many admins weren't updating the system. Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 11:07, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  • No. We already removed it because it was a pain in the butt and no one managed it, we are not adding it back. If you can agree with some people to make a mini-subway from your mall to their mall, then there is nothing stopping you. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 11:12, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I would like to see a subway system here in shops, but the problem is, there's currently no one willing to update and maintain the system regularly. Though if someone promises to update the subway system if it is restored, then this issue can be solved, and I would support re-adding a subway :) --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 11:23, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Sorry Aqua, but I don't like this concept. We removed the old subway for a reason because it was easier to manage. The only reason people are waiting are because the current admins are pretty lazy imo. But if we did the Subway again it would take even longer to update. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 13:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  • After asking myself how will the Subway be able to connect to the Death Star, I've made up my mind and voted against this. --Flag of Malaysia.svgFlag of the United States.svgSlender Talk to me 10:49, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
  • No. Just no. The reason why the old subway system became defunct was because it was a hassle to update. This new system may not be as creative, but it provides easy access to all of the malls and whatnot on Shops. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 21:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Add an IRC channel for political use (0)[edit]

Topic added on August 31, 2014.
Topic will be removed on September 14, 2014.

I had the idea of adding a channel strictly used for the political side of the wiki. For example, say there was a debate on who should be the next admin in IRC. Instead of talking it over in #clubpenguinwiki-shops, we could talk it over in #clubpenguinwiki-shops-politics (or whatever would be a better channel name.) This can help people in many ways, in my opinion. We could use #clubpenguinwiki-shops for stuff like help on making a mall and just to chat, but we can have the political channel for debates and whatnot. It can be used by the administration by only allowing administrators on at a certain time to talk about policies and new additions. Also, if a new user really needed help, and we are there arguing about a policy, then 1) We may not see it, and 2) It is a bad way to welcome a new user. So in short, a new channel could be used to get rid of political debates on the main channel and not give us a bad reputation with a new user. If you vote against this idea, please comment why, and if you have extra suggestions regarding the idea, also put those in the comments.
--Mandog (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

For (3)[edit]

  1. --Mandog (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Q Mall! EstonianPuffle.png 17:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Aquamarina | Talk page | Contributions | Aurora Mall 18:44, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Against (3)[edit]

  1. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 18:49, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
  2. Mario Rk was here! 02:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 09:50, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • I don't think we need this, as we barely talk about Shops on the main channel anyway, so we don't really need a dedicated channel for this and can just use the regular one. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 18:49, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
    • HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAA... Oh man that was hilarious... Nobody talks about Shops on the Club Penguin SHOPS channel. Are you outta your mind? :P Mario Rk was here! 02:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Bring back the Recycling Plant (+2)[edit]

Topic added on September 19th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on October 3rd, 2014.

I think the Recycling Plant should be brought back, because as of now the only way to get rid of items (besides making them disappear from your inventory forever) is selling them in your mall, like I'm doing, and a lot of stuff i.e. CP items that people might want to get rid of probably wouldn't sell at all.

Actually, why did we remove it in the first place...?

--ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 20:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

For (4)[edit]

  1. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 20:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
  2. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 22:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 19:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 19:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Against (2)[edit]

  1. -- Brookelas Autism Awareness AutismAwarenessPuzzle.png 00:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC) No... hated this idea since Day 1.
  2. Freaking no ----Pikalugiasignature.png (Talk!) (Mall!) 19:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Sure, bringing the recycling plant back would be nice, but the previous version was a bit complex. A simple page would work. I support this! --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 22:01, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Shops wiki Goodwill store, maybe? Items people used to own, but at lower prices, and these items could have been created by users that are gone (like me). This may be a good idea. Let's see. Atum Talk 00:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
    • I think the idea is that Chill wants to remove said items permanently, as opposed to just selling it. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 01:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Denied[edit]

Bring back the Farmlands (-3)[edit]

Topic added on September 20th, 2014.
Topic will be removed October 4th, 2014.

Bring back the Farmlands. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 19:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

For (1)[edit]

  1. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 19:14, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Against (4)[edit]

  1. Nup.It was ok, but just if Snowstormer continue it. ----Pikalugiasignature.png (Talk!) (Mall!) 19:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
  2. Plus stupid. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 18:00, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 18:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 00:05, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
  5. --CPRussia.pngSlender Talk to me 04:26, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Pika: As far as I know, Snow is currently working on a bot-operated Farmlands. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 20:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I was going to vote "no", but a bot operated farmlands? Cool! I'm just going to remain neutral on this topic. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 05:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
  • I voted against for this because I'm already working on something to make the Farmlands more interactive, which means they will be back sometime in the future, but this topic is not going to make the comeback any faster. Plus if anyone is going to operate the Farmlands, it's going to be me :) --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 18:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
  • The Farmlands has failed every time you guys have tried to do it. What makes you think this time will be any different? --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 00:05, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Bring back the Arcade (-3)[edit]

Topic added on September 20th, 2014.
Topic will be removed October 4th, 2014.

Bring back the Arcade. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 19:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

For (1)[edit]

  1. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 19:15, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Against (4)[edit]

  1. No tanks!----Pikalugiasignature.png (Talk!) (Mall!) 19:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
  2. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 05:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, it was approved. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 17:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 18:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

October 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Loosen Restrictions for Mall of the Month (+8)[edit]

Topic added on October 1st, 2014.
Topic will be removed on October 15th, 2014.

Hey! This is Yoshi here again.

I have been looking at the Mall of the Month chart, and it appears that there were no Mall of the Months during the entire year. Why? This is most likely due to inactivity, lack of cooperation, and lazy butts. It's also because of the policies. In the "guidelines" section, there is a message that explicitly says, "If a mall gets under 4 votes there won't be a MotM that month." Bam.

What's the problem with this statement? The sad thing is that people are actually nominating and voting for malls, but no malls get featured. This is because all of the malls have less than four votes. Our user count is slowly starting to dwindle, and this strict "four votes" policy will no longer work. If this trend continues, we may never see another MotM ever again, which is just sad.

I am proposing looser guidelines for Mall of the Month. I'm thinking that a mall must have at least one vote, but I am not entirely sure. If you support this change, please tell me what a reasonable policy should be. If you are against this, please make a comment and I'll reply ASAP. We need another MotM, and it's just not going to happen.

--NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 22:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

For (8)[edit]

  1. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 22:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
  2. This was a thing? --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
  3. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 14:18, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 16:15, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
  5. --CPRussia.pngSlender Talk to me 09:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
  6. CK 14:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  7. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 16:59, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  8. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 17:05, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Against (0)[edit]

Comments[edit]

  • Very Good Point. I Agree With You. My Vote Is Not Needed Here. 23:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I remember adding this to the MotM a long time ago (maybe 2012), and back then I felt like setting that rule would get the community active again (since we had more than four users), or they'd pay the price by not getting a MotM. But, now I agree that we should remove it, because at this point it's just hurting us and the MotM program. CK 14:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • I guess I'll remain neutral about this. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 09:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Bank Account Dates (+4)[edit]

Topic added on October 10th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on October 25th, 2014.

Because Europeans use the day/month/year system while Americans use month/day/year system on dates, it ruins bank accounts. For example, yesterday you buy from a European and they write 4/10/2014 for example. Next day, you buy from an American and they write 10/5/2014. This needs to stop because it makes the bank accounts look ugly and it's weird. I say we instead of writing the d/m/y or m/d/y format, we write, for example, 1 Jan '14. Anyone agrees? --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 19:13, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

For (5)[edit]

  1. Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 19:13, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 19:14, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  3. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 04:35, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
  4. Over 6 billion people in the world are not Americans. --CPRussia.pngSlender Talk to me 10:50, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
  5. I changed my mind. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:26, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Against (1)[edit]

  1. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 13:56, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

#--ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 20:36, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • No offense, but your solution looks worse than the actual problem... --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 20:36, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
    • No. You want everyone to convert to your, no offense, puny American system because you are too 'free and amazing' to use normal. This is the best solution to this. Like, seriously... the bank accounts are weird like this. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 10:30, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
      • Smells like racism to me. Anyway, I feel the new way is just weird. I don't mind the European dates actually. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:07, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
        • No it wasnt really racist it just came out of me for some reason :| --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 17:05, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
          • Watch that you don't cut yourself with that edge. #3edgy5me --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 00:58, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
        • Pen, clam down, and your being racist, were not forcing you, comments like this ruin shops. --Dave33333 Happy Halloween! :D Come to my mall! 16:52, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
  • What Chill said. Americans and Europeans have different ways to write times. It's more of a preference kind of thing, so I won't vote. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 21:54, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Wait, after reading the topic over again, I will vote for this! This dating system is actually quite simple, and I use it when creating council topics, reports, and whatnot. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 04:35, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Here's something you guys haven't thought about... if this becomes a thing, who's going to update EVERY single bank account to replace EVERY single date? Bank accounts date back to 2011, that's a lot of fixing... --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 22:50, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
    • It would be hard, but if we really wanted to we could just start it from a new month (i.e. November 2014) and have every date from there on have the new format. Leaving the old format behind on old Bank Archives. CK 14:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • This would be much clearer than the current system, and this way Europeans/Americans wouldn't be confused with the format. However, being the picky American that I am I suggest the format "Jan 1, 2014" rather than "1 Jan 2014" KD CK 14:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
    • I agree, "Jan 1, 2014" looks better than "1 Jan 2014" --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 16:53, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
    • You are right. --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 16:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
    • I agree C: --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:16, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
    • Honestly I prefer "1 Jan 2014" over "Jan 1, 2014" (I tend to follow the British date format rather than the American one), but I wouldn't mind switching :P --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 09:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Enforced bank archiving (+4)[edit]

Topic added on October 11th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on October 26th, 2014.

I think the administration NEEDS to start archiving bank accounts. The current system is that users can archive whenever they feel like it, which doesn't turn out well: looking through the bank, Brook hasn't archived since November 2012, Yoshi hasn't since January 2012, and Bro (while his account was removed) hasn't since August 2012. Yeah, this gets to be a problem. If this topic passes, the administration should start archiving user's bank accounts, while still letting users archive if they want to themselves.

--ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:35, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

For (4)[edit]

  1. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:35, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
  2. --CPRussia.pngSlender Talk to me 00:56, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
  3. No comment. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 05:13, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 17:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Against (0)[edit]

Comments[edit]

  • I'm neutral on this. The only time that it becomes a problem for me is when the user hasn't archived in so long that their bank page is "overflowing", which doesn't seem to happen too often, but you may be seeing things that I don't see. CK 14:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, we have 2 "bank managers", Dps and Slender. I feel like it should be their job to do this alongside giving out salaries. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 17:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
    • Exactly. However, it's pretty obvious if they aren't. If the administration jumps in, that's extra help. Personally, I would be glad to archive users' bank accounts every now and then. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:14, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • I am a bit too lazy to archive my bank :| --Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 17:05, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • This is a good idea. I admit being a bit lazy about bank archiving, and I apologize for that. If this vote passes, I believe Slender and I are capable of archiving bank accounts on a monthly/bi-monthly basis. --Rowboat Pin.PNGDps04talk | Mall 09:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
    • Well it's not really your fault, it was always archiving is optional and the users can do it if they want themselves. But with how long the bank has been running, it would be highly beneficial to do this. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 13:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Use bank templates for bank transactions (+2)[edit]

Topic added on October 13th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on October 28th, 2014.

A bit earlier today, I made 3 templates, Template:BankStart, Template:BankLog and Template:BankEnd. These look a lot more user-friendly than the wikitables, and get the job done good. You can see an example in my sandbox, it looks the same. And I know replacing it all would be hard, but trust me, it took me 2 minutes to replace my bank transactions in my sandbox, plus we could use my bot to do the dirty work, and in the end we would have an user-friendly bank.

For (4)[edit]

  1. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 17:17, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 08:03, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  3. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 22:52, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Dave33333 Happy Halloween! :D Come to my mall! 17:57, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Against (2)[edit]

  1. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:20, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  2. --CPRussia.pngSlender Talk to me 07:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Old bank transaction archives too? --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 15:36, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
  • The only way this would benefit us would be BankStart and BankEnd - BankLog itself does pretty much nothing different. Unless your bot can somehow keep every transaction intact, I'm going to vote against this for now. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:20, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
    • It looks cleaner, plus it doesn't need WB$ anymore. And yes, my bot can keep every transaction intact --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 17:25, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
      • If you don't mind, could you make an example page that would show the bot converting it? If it can, then I'll change my vote. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 20:12, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Maybe. It certainly looks simplistic and more user friendly, but is there any real point to this? I'll think about this over the next couple of days. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 02:57, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
  • To be honest, I don't understand the purpose of this, or what it does? So, if somebody could explain it to me I'd appreciate it. CK 03:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
    • Basically, it replaces the bank wikitable with templates. It looks exactly the same normally, but according to Snow it makes editing the page more user-friendly. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 17:07, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, if it's more user friendly, I'll vote. However, the bot needs to do the dirty work. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 13:07, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Denied[edit]

Make MS Paint friendly CP items (-4)[edit]

Topic added on October 10th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on October 25th, 2014.

Guys, I use MS Paint, and when I have to work with transparent pics, I have to have a black background. Once I fill it in with white, BOOM! A bunch of blurry black pixles that are a different shade of black. I would want MS Paint friendly items with a white background, I bet you will reject it anyway, like the rest. --Dave33333 Happy Halloween! :D Come to my mall! 18:50, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

For (2)[edit]

  1. --Dave33333 Happy Halloween! :D Come to my mall! 18:50, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 13:56, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Against (6)[edit]

  1. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 19:14, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 03:39, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
  3. --CPRussia.pngSlender Talk to me 09:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
  4. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 12:55, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  5. CK 14:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  6. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:33, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • wat --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 19:14, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • This will help people with MS Paint. You want to help us people snow? --Dave33333 Happy Halloween! :D Come to my mall! 19:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes I understand. If you use MS Paint then don't use MS Paint and get something like Paint.net or Gimp instead. If you're not on XP, then Paint.net is a great alternative to MS Paint. --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 19:38, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm on XP :( --Dave33333 Happy Halloween! :D Come to my mall! 19:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • wat --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 21:54, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Supreme waste of everyone's time. CP items dumbed down to MS Paint level look terrible, unless you edit the original item pixel by pixel, like this - File:32.png. --Bro (Talk | Contribs) 03:39, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Bro you moron, I mean make a special page of MS Paint compatible items! I won't download anything! Just agree with me, I mean it, I try and try to do well! But I'm am FORCED use these stupid transparent items! I want MS Paint items, THAT'S ALL! --Dave33333 Happy Halloween! :D Come to my mall! 16:48, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
    • That would basically duplicate the entire CP items library, which would take up way more space than it needs to. Also, ask CK, he was able to get Paint.NET for Windows XP. He might be able to find it for you. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 19:08, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, we cannot make a "MS Paint Items Database" just so that we can please maybe one or two people. If you are really desperate, you can try to edit out the ugly black background. You could also download Paint.NET 3.5.11, which is the last version to support XP. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | I don't edit here. I'm just here for politics and such. 12:55, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • It would be way too tedious to make a second CP Items database, especially considering we've barely expanded the first one. To the MS Paint users out there, I would highly suggest (as Yoshi said) downloading Paint.Net 3.5.11 somewhere. I recently did that myself, and it works quite well. Although, you probably won't be able to find it on the Paint.Net website. CK 14:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
  • To Quacker and Dave- here is a website that Wonderweez vouches for. Just go there and download Paint.Net3.5.11 (or whatever version it is). CK 06:02, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

November 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Move ads to the sitenotice (+5)[edit]

Topic added on November 26th.
Topic will be removed on December 10th.

Let's face it, the advertisements on the main page are useless. People probably never go to the bottom of the main page to look at ads, and people are constantly breaking the rules with the image ads. So, I think we should do only text ads on the sitenotice. Not only is this easier to maintain, but they would be way more noticeable. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 19:18, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

For (5)[edit]

  1. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 19:18, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
  2. --CPRussia.pngBelarus flag.jpgSlender Talk to me 02:31, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
  3. --MAHNA MAHNA! Talk to me. Or visit my Mall...um... Megamall. 12:27, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
  4. --Not Scorn.PNG Quackerpingu (talk). Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 15:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
  5. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Proud Participant of NaNoWriMo YWP 2014! 17:33, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Against (0)[edit]

Comments[edit]

  • Well Quacker, people can actually just buy text ads for the mainpage too rather than images :s CK 17:45, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Denied[edit]

Replace cities and space stations on the mainpage template with Moon Island (-1)[edit]

Topic added on November 2, 2014.
Topic will be removed on November 16, 2014.

I think that the cities and space stations (Gdanham, Virtual City, Death Star) on the template Mainpage-places should be replaced with Moon Island, as the template is for malls, so only one non-mall page is better than 3, and also the cities are still accessible through the Moon Island page. Also, The Man Cave should be removed (look into Mandog's contributions, you see that he is inactive). --Not Scorn.PNG Quackerpingu (talk). Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 11:26, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

For (1)[edit]

  1. --Not Scorn.PNG My name is Pingu. Quackerpingu. Visit Quackmall! Eesti lipp.gif 11:26, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Against (3)[edit]

  1. What the heck is this proposal? --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Proud Participant of NaNoWriMo YWP 2014! 03:13, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
  2. idek --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 15:49, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
  3. wtfudge? --CPRussia.pngBelarus flag.jpgSlender Talk to me 22:03, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

December 2014[edit]

Approved[edit]

Criminalization of unwanted messages (+3)[edit]

Topic added on December 19th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on January 2nd, 2015.

Recently, Miron and Snowstormer asked me to protect their talk pages because they were receiving mascot backgrounds from QP. However, I felt that I have made a mistake by protecting their talk pages, as that means that others can't communicate with them if they want to. Meanwhile, I also remembered a photo that Bro put on his talk page on the Club Penguin Fanon Wiki which stated that any nonsense into his talk page wills not be tolerated.

Therefore, I am calling for users who do not want any ads or mascot-backgrounds on their talk pages to place a reminder/template stating so. In order to make these templates effective, I am also asking that any ads or background-giving on these users' talk pages to be treated as spam. To be kind, we will give anyone who commit this offense a warning. If they persist, they should be subjugated under our Vandalism Policy. Thank you. --CPRussia.pngBelarus flag.jpgSlender Talk to me 16:02, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

For (4)[edit]

  1. --CPRussia.pngBelarus flag.jpgSlender Talk to me 15:15, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
  2. --Dave33333 all hail To the epic king. Come to my mall! 18:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
  3. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 15:43, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
  4. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Yes! 15:13, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Against (1)[edit]

  1. CK 23:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Frankly, I want my talk page to keep being protected. I don't see myself returning to this wiki, and if you want to contact me, I'm available on IRC. The only messages I receive are mascot backgrounds and stuff like that which I do not want, but Chill already unprotected it >_> --Proud to be Estonian! Snowstormer TalkContributionsMall 09:32, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, if you're not going to return to the wiki, then why keep checking your talk page? :S CK 23:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
  • If you don't want any messages, or a certain kind of message, say so at the top of your talk page like people do (or used to do) about CP Party invites. Anyone who knows courtesy would be kind enough to not post messages like that (in this case, mascot bgs) on your talk page. If they do persist, then you could message them and tell them not to do it again and/or ask an admin to warn them. CK 23:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Denied[edit]

City places template (-3)[edit]

Topic added on December 28th, 2014.
Topic will be removed on January 11th, 2015.

I think we should create 2 "Where to go" templates for the mainpage. One is for malls, one is for cities and towns. What do you think?

For (1)[edit]

  1. --MAHNA MAHNA! Talk to me. Or visit my Mall...um... Megamall. 12:34, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Against (4)[edit]

  1. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Yes! 15:08, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
  2. I'm only voting against because I have a better idea - see in the comments. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
  3. --ShadowWalrus.png MWA HA HA! Shadow Walrus! It's my name and my catchphrase! ShadowWalrus.png 12:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
  4. Mario Rk was here! 12:17, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • I find two different templates unnecessary. It might make the mainpage more confusing, and it's much easier to have everything in one place. --NevadaFlag.png Yoshi11 | Yes! 15:08, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Instead of having two templates, why not just expand the current template and have two SECTIONS? For example, we could have Malls above the current selection, and then add Cities with a list of cities in a similar manner under it. This way, it's all in the same place. --ChillInGame.png Chill57181 Talk Contribs Mall ChillInGame.png 23:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)